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Reader Questions: Fees and Clients
In response to this post where I disclosed in great detail my year-to-date expenses, a reader asks, Bo, do you mind me asking what you've collected in fees? How many clients do you have? With respect to clients, I have a dozen. About half of them are legal aid. I'm also doing a bunch of agency work for another lawyer, which is keeping me busy. Of course, I'm by no means booked and I'm always looking for new clients. Feel free to refer. With respect to fees collected, there are two reasons that I'm uncomfortable giving you all a number. First, I was raised to never ask how much a person makes. Second, the number would be misleading. See, I had no idea what to charge for my services when I first started out. So, I accepted several clients on exceptionally small retainers. Besides not knowing what rates were appropriate, I've always had trouble asking people for money Particularly people of modest means. Several of my private retainers have ended up bringing in the same as or less than my legal aid retainers. As a result, I haven't made close to as much as I should -- or could -- have. Fortunately, I've managed to adjust my attitude. I've consulted with my contemporaries and been given insight into what other lawyers charge by my clients. My new retainers will be more in line with the rest of the bar and, eventually, I'll be able to have the water turned back on. Comments: Good for you. Using logic, you have about 6 non legal aid clients, at least 4 of which brought in legal aid rates or less. Comments: Hey Bo. I've been reading your blog for some time, and much as I enjoy it, I feel like it's time I made an observation, which you are free to take seriously or to ignore entirely. Comments: I disagree with the previous comment. This blog is about Bo's experience as a new call setting up his own practice. The content of this blog gives no indication that Bo is an incompetent lawyer. It merely relates to the many obstacles solo practioners face when starting up shop. On the contrary, I would think this blog is good for business as prospective clients would be more inclined to retain Bo as they would seemingly benefit from an eager young lawyer willing to please, as well as very reasonable rates. Bo has set the tone of openess and honesty that clients find both refreshing as well as appealing. Comments: "Eager young lawyer" = inexperienced lawyer. Comments: This is something I've been thinking about, too. Actually, I thought about it when you posted the comment about your clients having good excuses or something (mouth surgery?) - what if that client read that? Comments: "Eager young lawyer" eh? To reply to 10:43am, I think you are blinded on this issue by your (presumptive) status as a law student or young lawyer yourself. Would you be in a hurry to hire an "eager young dentist" to approach your mouth with sharp, buzzing tools, or would you prefer to hire someone with a decade or two of experience? Comments: 1204: Who do you think these prospective clients are? Comments: Of course, all of this is assuming that (potential) clients will Google his name. It's probably more likely that they'll find out about him in some other way (word of mouth, LAO, referral sites, etc.). Comments: A lot of these comments seem to be from people who haven't worked as criminal defence lawyers. Comments: I don't understand why you don't look for an associate position at a crim shop for at least a year or two until you figure out what's going on and get some clients, especially since you didn't article in crim. It's got to be a lot easier than struggling to figure it out on your own. Why are you doing it the hard way? Comments: "No one, facing criminal consequences, wants an "eager young lawyer." They want the closest thing to Eddie Greenspan they can find. You aren't that and there's no sense pretending to be." says November 13, 2008 12:04 PM. Comments: "I don't understand why you don't look for an associate position at a crim shop for at least a year or two..." says November 16, 2008 4:52 PM. Google: criminal legal aid fees Reader Questions: Fees and Clients criminal legal aid |
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